Well, we’re back, we’ve been to Ireland, paddled the Cork Blackwater (and a lot more) and survived it!
It’s interesting that in 17 days in Ireland (north and south), travelling 2,000 miles, and having been in 26 counties out of the 32, we saw no open canoes on cars, and only 2 vehicles with sea kayaks on.
I wanted to get the Blackwater experience down quickly so that anybody might make comments on it.
The start of the story was in early April when I went up from Waterford for a day to see if there were any obvious difficulties. I had paddled the river as a teenager in either 1964 or 65, on a family holiday when my younger brother and I joined an organised holiday party, run by an Irish company. The Blackwater was obviously at that time both a major river, and a very likely contender for the most popular in Ireland – so what happened? I had tried internet sites during the last year, but found only fishing sites – ominous? I had also spoken to paddlers, e-mailed the ICU, and on this visit gone and spoken to both local people, and also tourist information offices, who had neither information, or knowledge.
(A note here – if we had been told that we couldn’t do something, according to Irish law, we would have respected it – i.e. ‘when in Rome…’ )
At Lismore I met two Guards who were looking into a theft from a car the night before. We chatted for a bit, and they soon told me, not that one could not paddle on the river, but that the area was heavily ‘preserved’, and that camping on the banks was not on – they said that people at night had been removed by them if the landowners (mainly Lismore Estate) accused them of poaching (this being by either people from Cork City, or travellers).
They looked a little bemused about canoeing on the river, but their advice was that it was vehicle parking, plus walking on the land without permission that caused problems. They advised paddling straight through, and only stopping on public land.
So, on Monday June 16th, I met with both Tony, my Irish companion, and three friends from Scotland, at the cottage they had rented for the week at Ballyhooly, between Mallow and Fermoy. Our plan was to do a day above Mallow (this turned out to be right – the river was at a June low, and only possible from Banteer at the highest, (24 km, 16 miles), a day from Mallow to Fermoy, both easy towns to launch from, (33 km, 20.5 miles), and then a long day to go down from Fermoy to Cappoquin (35 km, 22 miles), as I had already determined that both Ballyduff Bridge, and Lismore bridge, on this stretch were impossible to reach the river from.
So, how did we get on? Well, before my moans, let’s recount the good points;
- All the local people we met were very friendly and helpful, and interested in these strange craft (very few had ever seen an open canoe).
- The only people we met who were actually angling (four in all!) were OK.
- There were no ‘No Canoeing’ signs.
- We called in at the campsite at Fermoy, the only one on the river, and the owner was both helpful, and very interested in having more canoeists – he said he had a small trickle of people paddling calling at his site.
- Tourist information at Fermoy (closed when I called in April) is run from a fishing tackle shop by an English woman! She was asking for more trade in the valley, and hinted that the area was a bit backward in many ways – the outdoor activities brochure she had for Kerry and Cork has a white water kayaker on the cover!
- The only points on the river where there is fly fishing (you can see by the strimmed banks) are very limited (out of 92 km!) – 400m at Ballymaquirk bridge at the start, about 800m. between Killavullen and Ballyhooly, and then a few km (2 or 3?), around Ballyduff.
However, we met a real jobsworth at Ballymaquirk Bridge at the start, and all of us were disgusted that this guy, from Yorkshire, kept talking about ‘my river’, ‘my country’ etc. He was a disgrace. Basically, he told us to bugger off, and kept harassing us. (We ended up ignoring him, and refused to talk after a few exchanges).
Amongst the things he said, either to us directly, when three of us were waiting for the other two to do the car shuttle, or to my wife, who luckily had driven them back, and was not leaving a car there (she stayed on the bridge to take photos) were;
- This was a private river, and he ran that part for the landowner.
- We would disturb fishing for the whole day (no one was fishing).
- He got rid of canoeists by persecuting them, and eventually they got the message.
- It wasn’t an idea to leave vehicles there – they got damaged (we knew already).
- We were disturbing the gravel in the river (no, we did not), and there were salmon eggs there (no, there wasn’t, this was June!), and this was an offence.
- ‘Strangers’ were not welcome in these parts - they wanted no visitors (apart from anglers paying to fish, presumably).
- Canoeing is an extremely environmentally unfriendly activity.
Apparently, as we set off, he used his mobile phone to contact two mates downriver – we met no one (in fact, in three days on the river, we met no one!).
So, it appears for a few measly kilometres of river, if that, one person can frighten off part of the tourist trade, in an area that is palpably poorer than many parts of Ireland, and get away with it!
The river is absolutely beautiful, well worth it, not built up at all.
So, what do you think?
Eddie
Great work. I did the Blackwater from Mallow to Fermoy with no problems just over ten years ago.
There is a real interesting bit you may have missed out on where there are undercut thirty foot high limestone cliffs on the North side of the river.
(I was at the Irish open canoe symposium last year)
There have been issues with access to Blackwater for years. There was a documentary on Irish national radio recently outlining some of the issues with access to the river.
http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/120000…
Podcast: http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2008/pc/pod-v…
Hi The situation is this. Rivers are not owned by individuals. However, banks and the bed of the river can be, but this all comes down to common sense. Try not to canoe during sensitive times for fish. The local fisheries board will advise you and the sometimes they sort of “close” rivers in very sensitive areas for times of the year. Legally this is really complex, and culturally and constitutionally this is not an area that a landowner wants to get involved with in an antagonistic way in Ireland. The likes of a Lismore estate and their agents would do very well to remember the acute sensitivity that still surrounds this subjectafter 800 years of “occupation”. Politically them adopting a robust (even if it is a lawful) stance on this is genuinely not a good policy. The rivers of Ireland are open..they must stay that way..but being mindful of everyone that uses them. They are a resource that do not belong to one or a few individuals but to everyone. Might i suggest you look at the Barrow river which is excellent from Athy to St Mullins
Basil
Sad that the two people causing the problems on the Blackwater are the Duke of Devonshire and ‘The Yorkshire Man’ encountered on the Blackwater. I have just become a canoeist after a lifetime of dinghies, punts, 15 foot fishing boats etc. I am greatly looking forward to the Blackwater trip.
Thank you for highlighting this problem and for highlighting the joys of paddling.
Also thought it sad that the Englishwoman in Fermoy thinks the area is a ‘bit backward’. ‘Different’ does not mean ‘backward’. ‘Underdeveloped’ is often a result of Ireland’s history and lack of access.
Well done on a very honest appraisal of your visit to the Blackwater. Let’s hope more and more canoeists start to use Ireland’s wonderful rivers.
hi there we do a lot of canoeing on blackwater and really enjoy it we also met that chap at bally maquirke what a pain in the neck gerry
Hi,i was happy to read your journal and the responses about the blackwater.Im planning on canoeing from ballymaquirk to lismore this summer.I live on the bank of the blackwater between ballymaquirk and mallow,and its very seldom you would see people canoeing,already this year iv seen 6 and spoke to 2 in the last month.Im looking forward to the blackwater trip.were you able to canoe straight through fermoy town,how did you manage the ware longside fermoy bridg.Its nice to see people enjoying the blackwater.
An honest appraisal and just as well you took the lad from Yorkshire in your stride. Am a seakayaker and playboat user. I’ll be heading down river next week and I do hope I encounter that gentleman. As a local TD (MP) I am disgusted that you had to endure that kind of rubbish. Riparian Rights are nebulous in this country. Arguably, there are those who are genuine anglers, who live in the Blackwater Catchment, whose use is impeded by “private” fishing rights (Lets not get into that). While the law is seemingly nebulous, the use of common sense when kayaking and canoeing when encountering certain individuals is the best way to go. Your post has caused me to think about the law as it pertains to kayakers and canoeists and maybe a national code of practice is the way to go, with agreement from all stakeholders, thereby allowing users of the rivers. Thanks . Sean Sherlock TD