Comments for Irish Canoe Classics http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com Fifty open canoe touring routes on Irish rivers and lakes. A book by Eddie Palmer Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:23:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.0 Comment on The Blackwater (Cork) by sean sherlock http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-2068 Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:22:39 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-2068 An honest appraisal and just as well you took the lad from Yorkshire in your stride. Am a seakayaker and playboat user. I'll be heading down river next week and I do hope I encounter that gentleman. As a local TD (MP) I am disgusted that you had to endure that kind of rubbish. Riparian Rights are nebulous in this country. Arguably, there are those who are genuine anglers, who live in the Blackwater Catchment, whose use is impeded by "private" fishing rights (Lets not get into that). While the law is seemingly nebulous, the use of common sense when kayaking and canoeing when encountering certain individuals is the best way to go. Your post has caused me to think about the law as it pertains to kayakers and canoeists and maybe a national code of practice is the way to go, with agreement from all stakeholders, thereby allowing users of the rivers. Thanks . Sean Sherlock TD An honest appraisal and just as well you took the lad from Yorkshire in your stride. Am a seakayaker and playboat user. I’ll be heading down river next week and I do hope I encounter that gentleman. As a local TD (MP) I am disgusted that you had to endure that kind of rubbish. Riparian Rights are nebulous in this country. Arguably, there are those who are genuine anglers, who live in the Blackwater Catchment, whose use is impeded by “private” fishing rights (Lets not get into that). While the law is seemingly nebulous, the use of common sense when kayaking and canoeing when encountering certain individuals is the best way to go. Your post has caused me to think about the law as it pertains to kayakers and canoeists and maybe a national code of practice is the way to go, with agreement from all stakeholders, thereby allowing users of the rivers. Thanks . Sean Sherlock TD

]]> Comment on The Blackwater (Cork) by Levi http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-1943 Tue, 25 May 2010 10:35:30 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-1943 Hi,i was happy to read your journal and the responses about the blackwater.Im planning on canoeing from ballymaquirk to lismore this summer.I live on the bank of the blackwater between ballymaquirk and mallow,and its very seldom you would see people canoeing,already this year iv seen 6 and spoke to 2 in the last month.Im looking forward to the blackwater trip.were you able to canoe straight through fermoy town,how did you manage the ware longside fermoy bridg.Its nice to see people enjoying the blackwater. Hi,i was happy to read your journal and the responses about the blackwater.Im planning on canoeing from ballymaquirk to lismore this summer.I live on the bank of the blackwater between ballymaquirk and mallow,and its very seldom you would see people canoeing,already this year iv seen 6 and spoke to 2 in the last month.Im looking forward to the blackwater trip.were you able to canoe straight through fermoy town,how did you manage the ware longside fermoy bridg.Its nice to see people enjoying the blackwater.

]]> Comment on The book is finished! by admin http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2009/10/14/the-book-is-finished/#comment-1708 Fri, 21 May 2010 13:52:26 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2009/10/14/the-book-is-finished/#comment-1708 Hello Janet, The book is in production for 2011. There will be more news of the release date on this site and at pesdapress.com in time. Maps are being drawn, photos collated and the manuscript polished. Pete Hello Janet,
The book is in production for 2011. There will be more news of the release date on this site and at pesdapress.com in time. Maps are being drawn, photos collated and the manuscript polished.
Pete

]]> Comment on The book is finished! by Janet Hawkins http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2009/10/14/the-book-is-finished/#comment-1520 Mon, 10 May 2010 16:18:23 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2009/10/14/the-book-is-finished/#comment-1520 Hi I was wondering how to get hold of Irish Canoe Classics regards Hi

I was wondering how to get hold of Irish Canoe Classics

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]]> Comment on Comments on the legal access situation in Ireland by Stuart Cross http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/07/28/comments-on-the-legal-access-situation-in-ireland/#comment-1073 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:18:02 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/07/28/comments-on-the-legal-access-situation-in-ireland/#comment-1073 Its a pity that the situation is so bad. In england there are still problem areas but the lobby groups do a good job of giving access a public profile. Its a pity that the situation is so bad. In england there are still problem areas but the lobby groups do a good job of giving access a public profile.

]]> Comment on The Blackwater (Cork) by gerard o farrell http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-970 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:09:35 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-970 hi there we do a lot of canoeing on blackwater and really enjoy it we also met that chap at bally maquirke what a pain in the neck gerry hi there we do a lot of canoeing on blackwater and really enjoy it we also met that chap at bally maquirke what a pain in the neck gerry

]]> Comment on Sorry for the gap by Brian McGuinness http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/10/16/sorry-for-the-gap/#comment-661 Tue, 12 May 2009 08:23:00 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/10/16/sorry-for-the-gap/#comment-661 Hi Eddie, Like the blog. A few of us are open canoeing The Barrow in a few weeks. Could you possibly recommend a section of the river. We were hoping for a three day trip with camping. Hi Eddie,
Like the blog. A few of us are open canoeing The Barrow in a few weeks. Could you possibly recommend a section of the river. We were hoping for a three day trip with camping.

]]> Comment on The Blackwater (Cork) by Ed http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-470 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:59:36 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-470 Sad that the two people causing the problems on the Blackwater are the Duke of Devonshire and 'The Yorkshire Man' encountered on the Blackwater. I have just become a canoeist after a lifetime of dinghies, punts, 15 foot fishing boats etc. I am greatly looking forward to the Blackwater trip. Thank you for highlighting this problem and for highlighting the joys of paddling. Also thought it sad that the Englishwoman in Fermoy thinks the area is a 'bit backward'. 'Different' does not mean 'backward'. 'Underdeveloped' is often a result of Ireland's history and lack of access. Well done on a very honest appraisal of your visit to the Blackwater. Let's hope more and more canoeists start to use Ireland's wonderful rivers. Sad that the two people causing the problems on the Blackwater are the Duke of Devonshire and ‘The Yorkshire Man’ encountered on the Blackwater. I have just become a canoeist after a lifetime of dinghies, punts, 15 foot fishing boats etc. I am greatly looking forward to the Blackwater trip.
Thank you for highlighting this problem and for highlighting the joys of paddling.
Also thought it sad that the Englishwoman in Fermoy thinks the area is a ‘bit backward’. ‘Different’ does not mean ‘backward’. ‘Underdeveloped’ is often a result of Ireland’s history and lack of access.
Well done on a very honest appraisal of your visit to the Blackwater. Let’s hope more and more canoeists start to use Ireland’s wonderful rivers.

]]> Comment on The Blackwater (Cork) by Basil Bailey http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-413 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:30:23 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/06/28/14/#comment-413 Hi The situation is this. Rivers are not owned by individuals. However, banks and the bed of the river can be, but this all comes down to common sense. Try not to canoe during sensitive times for fish. The local fisheries board will advise you and the sometimes they sort of "close" rivers in very sensitive areas for times of the year. Legally this is really complex, and culturally and constitutionally this is not an area that a landowner wants to get involved with in an antagonistic way in Ireland. The likes of a Lismore estate and their agents would do very well to remember the acute sensitivity that still surrounds this subjectafter 800 years of "occupation". Politically them adopting a robust (even if it is a lawful) stance on this is genuinely not a good policy. The rivers of Ireland are open..they must stay that way..but being mindful of everyone that uses them. They are a resource that do not belong to one or a few individuals but to everyone. Might i suggest you look at the Barrow river which is excellent from Athy to St Mullins Basil Hi The situation is this. Rivers are not owned by individuals. However, banks and the bed of the river can be, but this all comes down to common sense. Try not to canoe during sensitive times for fish. The local fisheries board will advise you and the sometimes they sort of “close” rivers in very sensitive areas for times of the year. Legally this is really complex, and culturally and constitutionally this is not an area that a landowner wants to get involved with in an antagonistic way in Ireland. The likes of a Lismore estate and their agents would do very well to remember the acute sensitivity that still surrounds this subjectafter 800 years of “occupation”. Politically them adopting a robust (even if it is a lawful) stance on this is genuinely not a good policy. The rivers of Ireland are open..they must stay that way..but being mindful of everyone that uses them. They are a resource that do not belong to one or a few individuals but to everyone. Might i suggest you look at the Barrow river which is excellent from Athy to St Mullins

Basil

]]> Comment on The River Nore by Basil Bailey http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/04/22/11/#comment-412 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:16:53 +0000 http://irishcanoeclassics.pesdablog.com/2008/04/22/11/#comment-412 Noel, In answer to your question. The River Nore is a lovely river. You can start north of Kilkenny at a place called Bleach Green. There is a simple weir there, and after a short paddle you get to a small weir called Bishops Bridge, again very easy. You then pass through Kilkenny and below the castle are two weirs in quick succession. The Kilkebby Castle Weir and below it the Lacken Weir. The former is easy and the latter needs more care. Both a very recent constrcutions as is Bishops Bridge above. The section of about seven miles from Kilkenny to Bennettsbridge is a lovely stroll along the river dotted with one or two moderate weirs at Maddockstown and Sion, with a few very small old broken weirs and little rapids. Very easy and pleasing. Bennettsbridge Weir is a huge V Weir. It is challenging in medium to high water but shottable, enjoyable and easy for novices even in very low water. you know water levels are up when most of the left and right have a good flow over them. From here the section is quite flat with a small weir at Annanult and one nice little weir beyond Mount Juliet. Beyond this the next weir of note was at Thomastown. This was a lovely and complex V Weir but was washed in early April this year before the article above. It is now basically a strong flow of water from left to right through the breach. Below this the river to Inistioge is nice easy rather flat affair. Distance Bleach Green to Bennetsbridge is around 8-9 miles. Bennetsbridge to Thomastown around 6-7 miles and then the same from Thomastown to Inistioge. Do not do the river in medium water in sit-ons.. you will get in trouble..Pick a nice sunny day with low water levels and you will have a nice time. Also pick any section above to do at one stint. The section from Kilkenny to Bennettsbridge is really quite nice and easy below the Lacken Weir. (you can get in at this point by the way). Just remember safety first even in low water Basil Noel,

In answer to your question. The River Nore is a lovely river. You can start north of Kilkenny at a place called Bleach Green. There is a simple weir there, and after a short paddle you get to a small weir called Bishops Bridge, again very easy. You then pass through Kilkenny and below the castle are two weirs in quick succession. The Kilkebby Castle Weir and below it the Lacken Weir. The former is easy and the latter needs more care. Both a very recent constrcutions as is Bishops Bridge above. The section of about seven miles from Kilkenny to Bennettsbridge is a lovely stroll along the river dotted with one or two moderate weirs at Maddockstown and Sion, with a few very small old broken weirs and little rapids. Very easy and pleasing. Bennettsbridge Weir is a huge V Weir. It is challenging in medium to high water but shottable, enjoyable and easy for novices even in very low water. you know water levels are up when most of the left and right have a good flow over them. From here the section is quite flat with a small weir at Annanult and one nice little weir beyond Mount Juliet. Beyond this the next weir of note was at Thomastown. This was a lovely and complex V Weir but was washed in early April this year before the article above. It is now basically a strong flow of water from left to right through the breach. Below this the river to Inistioge is nice easy rather flat affair. Distance Bleach Green to Bennetsbridge is around 8-9 miles. Bennetsbridge to Thomastown around 6-7 miles and then the same from Thomastown to Inistioge. Do not do the river in medium water in sit-ons.. you will get in trouble..Pick a nice sunny day with low water levels and you will have a nice time. Also pick any section above to do at one stint. The section from Kilkenny to Bennettsbridge is really quite nice and easy below the Lacken Weir. (you can get in at this point by the way). Just remember safety first even in low water

Basil

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